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Offline scoast3

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All Mail Returned
« on: December 29, 2006, 04:32:27 AM »
Just got everything set up, did some testing with lists of 1~3 addresses to make sure things were functioning properly. Then sent out a letter to 1700 members of my mailing list, and every one of them was returned with this message:

This message was created automatically by mail delivery software.

A message that you sent could not be delivered to one or more of its
recipients. This is a permanent error. The following address(es) failed:

  example@msn.com
    unrouteable mail domain "msn.com"

------ This is a copy of the message, including all the headers. ------

Return-path: <melonman@phantom.ihsystem.com>
Received: from melonman by phantom.ihsystem.com with local (Exim 4.52)
   id 1H0Bni-0007as-CO
   for example@msn.com; Fri, 29 Dec 2006 01:05:10 -0600


Any ideas?

Thanks!

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Re: All Mail Returned
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2006, 06:38:18 AM »
Strange.  Are they all @msn.com addresses?  Might be that domain is temporarily inaccessible from your host then.

Could you also copy your script options here?  (not the whole script, just the options)

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Re: All Mail Returned
« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2006, 07:36:57 AM »
EZ, don't know if this might go along with that...  but my servers are set to bounce e-mails that are sent out in excess of 1000 at a time from an automated system.  As luck would have it, the server that this forum resides on is one such server.  Don't know if you have the ability to test the ezmailer script from this server, but we could see if the message can be recreated.  Looks to me like the actual host might be blocking it.  Not sure though.

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Re: All Mail Returned
« Reply #3 on: December 29, 2006, 07:54:59 AM »
In such case, scoast3 could best check with his host support on whether they have restrictions on their mail services.

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Re: All Mail Returned
« Reply #4 on: December 29, 2006, 07:56:54 AM »
Addresses with many different domains were returned, so it doesn't seem to be msn-specific. Maybe I should contact my host regarding the possible limit on the number of addresses sent to at one time. If that were the case, I could just create multiple lists.

Here's the script, which I've xed out in parts.

#!/usr/bin/perl
##########################################################
# EZMailer Xtra v 06/Aug/2005
# 2005 EZMailer.net
# EZMailer is part of the Babelnotes.be network
##########################################################
my $script                   = 'http://www.xxxxxxxxx.com/cgi-bin/ezmailerBP.pl';
my $listDB                   = 'xxxxxxxxxx.txt';
my $listspath                = './xxxxxxx';

my $Username                 = 'xxxxxxxx';
my $Password                 = 'xxxxxxxxx';

my $securitykey              = 'xxxxxxxxxxxx';

my $HTML_thankyousubscribe   = 'http://www.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com/thankyousubscribe.html';
my $HTML_thankyouunsubscribe = 'http://www.xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.com/thankyouunsubscribe.html';
##########################################################
# Backup settings
my $backupdir                = 'xxxxxxxxxx/xxxxxx';
##########################################################
# Mail settings
my $send_me                  = 1;
my $admin_mail               = 'xxxxxxxxxxxx@hotmail.com';
my $mailprog                 = '/usr/sbin/sendmail';
##########################################################
# Style settings
my $backgroundcolor          = "#FFFFFF";
my $titlecolor               = "#0000FF";
my $menucolor                = "#D7EBFF";
my $defaultfont              = "Verdana";
my $style                    =<<EOF;
  A {color: #0000FF;text-decoration:none;font-weight:bold}
  A:hover {color: #FFFFFF;font-weight:bold;background:#0000FF}
  body, td {
        font-size: 12px;
        font-family: $defaultfont
           }
EOF
##########################################################
# Extra security settings
my $disable_list_delete         = 0;
my $disable_list_create         = 0;
my $disable_external_subscribe  = 0;
my $disable_batch_unsubscribe   = 0;
my $disable_feature_warning     =  <<EOF;
<p align="center"><br></p><p align="center">&nbsp;</p>
<p align="center">For safety reasons, the administrator has disabled this function</p>
EOF

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Re: All Mail Returned
« Reply #5 on: December 29, 2006, 08:11:02 AM »
Just got a message from my host. There is a 200 email/hour limit on my server. I guess there's no way to work around this, is there?

Thanks for all your help and attention to this matter.

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Re: All Mail Returned
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2006, 09:12:16 AM »
Unfortunately there is no work around a limit of that sort.  Hosting companies have become liable for spam senders, I should know, I own a hosting service!  There are hosts that allow for more mail to be sent, for instance we allow 1000 in a mailing, but your ISP usually limits it if you use their smtp.  We provide low cost hosting thru godaddy.com.  check out http://internet.tiznetwebdesign.com.  But please do not ask me support questions directly, I simply contract out the support to godaddy.com.

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Re: All Mail Returned
« Reply #7 on: December 29, 2006, 10:59:59 AM »
Just got a message from my host. There is a 200 email/hour limit on my server.

I am very sorry to hear that, but I am afraid there is not an immediate workaround for such limit.  I hope others, just like Jason, can recommend you other hosts that do not have such strict limits.  I have seen people before that could succesfully send to > 1000 recipients.

Sadly, I cannot help any more on this one :(

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Re: All Mail Returned
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2006, 05:14:33 PM »
Jason and EZ,

Thanks again for your time and effort on this one. I guess I'll see if something can be done on the hosting side. Or maybe I can find someone to come up with a timing hack for the script, where you could choose how many mails/hour to be sent out. Probably a lot more difficult than it sounds, though.

Have a happy holiday season!

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Re: All Mail Returned
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2006, 08:55:58 AM »
The script could be hacked to that end, but your host will probably not allow Perl instances to run for so long.  Most hosts automatically kill scripts that are running longer than 15 seconds.

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Re: All Mail Returned
« Reply #10 on: January 01, 2007, 08:44:37 AM »
Maybe a list of hosting companies that offer unlimited mailings would be useful. It's such a shame, because I really love the script so much... It does everything I want to be able to do!

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Re: All Mail Returned
« Reply #11 on: January 01, 2007, 08:48:03 AM »
Most of my sites are hosted on 123-reg.co.uk (not all).

You might contact them and ask them about their mail policy (tell them you are talking about some 2000 recipients and thus not really out to spam).

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Re: All Mail Returned
« Reply #12 on: January 01, 2007, 06:08:35 PM »
Thanks, I'll do that.

Cheers from Tokyo!

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« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2007, 06:21:34 PM »
Just an update. I haven't had much success getting my hosting service to increase the number of letters that can be sent out at a time, so unfortunately I haven't yet been able to use ezmailer. That made me think that EZscripting might want to partner with a hosting service and offer the script along with hosting. Just an idea.